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Ibn
02-18-2005, 3:57 PM
Need some clarifications with lighting in regards to the D70 and SB-800 flash(es).

Using multiple speedlights. Are there stands made for these (I've seen Andreas and others use some sort of stand for their's)? I take it that they're just set on the same channels as remotes.

Macro photography. Is there a certain bracket for using the flash for macro? I have been handholding the flash for awhile now, but it would be nice to be able to just mount it on the camera or something (Nikon doesn't make a twin flash unit).

JerseyJay
02-18-2005, 4:36 PM
Are there stands made for these (I've seen Andreas and others use some sort of stand for their's)?
SB-800 comes with stand

http://www.focusmedia.nl/img/actueel/0904/NIKON-SB800.jpg

Is there a certain bracket for using the flash for macro? I have been handholding the flash for awhile now, but it would be nice to be able to just mount it on the camera or something (Nikon doesn't make a twin flash unit).

You can use tripod with bulkhead and position entire setup as needed or you can use stroboframe.

http://aquatic-photography.com/gallery/files/2/flash.jpg

Ibn
02-18-2005, 5:14 PM
Yup...it does come with a stand. Guess my question was whether there were stands for the flash units. Instead of using tripods and ballheads, I was wondering if they had something cheaper that can be used.

That stroboframe looks like what I was looking for. I was thinking of using the D70 on a pod and then attaching some sort of bracket to hold the flash unit on so that I can use it along with the Tamron 90mm macro. Hmm...looks like Kirk does have make macro brackets: http://www.kirkphoto.com/brackets.html .

hir0
02-18-2005, 5:58 PM
first off, i am by no means any sort of macro expert. i dabbled in if a few times.
there are a lot of offerings for brackets, and brackets are said to work well (i've never used one). but for use with only one flash, i don't think a bracket really makes a whole hell of a lot of difference unless you had problems with your lens casting shadows. i use my tamron sp90 di / d70 / sb-800 mounted on the shoe. i use the stofen bounce diffuser. i angle my flash head up 45-55 degrees. at minimum working distance (1:1) i've always been able to get away with f16-f18 @ 1/200 - 1/250 sec.
here are a few samples all taken with sb-800 on camera - (sorry for anyone who has to see these again)

http://www.pbase.com/michihir0/image/38205699.jpg
1/250s f/20

http://www.pbase.com/michihir0/image/38040714.jpg
1/320s f/16

http://www.pbase.com/michihir0/image/38205707.jpg
1/250s f/22

benny
02-18-2005, 7:44 PM
Excellent butterfly macros!!! I know a lot of folks find the plain black background in the last picture too clean/clinical, but I like it as the focus stays on the subject.

Cheers,

hir0
02-18-2005, 9:56 PM
thanks benny. more on brackets, don't let me discourage you if you want one - i'm sure they work very well. i know a lot of wedding photographers that find them absolutely essential. i've just learned that i don't need them (i do very little macro). multiple setups would be a lot more useful IMO.
here (http://www.pbase.com/elusivebyte/twin_tube) is another alternative that costs $0.50. (hehe)

Ibn
02-18-2005, 11:08 PM
Beautiful pictures, Hir0. I wasn't thinking of using a bracket because when the Tamron is fully extended (1:1), I didn't think that the flash would light up the subject too well. Looking at those pictures though, it looks like I'll have to give it a shot.

Looks like you were tracking the same butterfly =).

BTW, I was looking at multiple flash units, hence the reason for the bracket question (total of 3 sets of SB-800).

benny
02-18-2005, 11:18 PM
BTW, I was looking at multiple flash units, hence the reason for the bracket question (total of 3 sets of SB-800).

I'm sure that's an investment you won't regret. I've always believed in having more light at your disposal when needed.

Cheers,

JerseyJay
02-18-2005, 11:23 PM
I know a lot of wedding photographers that find them absolutely essential.
I did couple Christenings and some conventions and I found stroboframe to be extremely useful to the point where I wouldn't photograph without one.

Recently I purchased LumiQuest Softbox LQ925D and I love it. OmniBounce is not even close to this Softbox when it comes to light diffusion.

http://www.lumiquest.com/images/925-softbox.jpg

hir0
02-18-2005, 11:45 PM
Looks like you were tracking the same butterfly =).
if you look closely at the lower wing, you will notice that they are different butterflies :)

hir0
02-18-2005, 11:48 PM
Recently I purchased LumiQuest Softbox LQ925D and I love it. OmniBounce is not even close to this Softbox when it comes to light diffusion.
i've been wanting to pick one of those up. general rule, the bigger the light source, the softer the shadows.

Ibn
02-19-2005, 12:05 AM
if you look closely at the lower wing, you will notice that they are different butterflies :)

Was looking at the pattern on the upper wing and the spot on the upper section of it. Just thought that the lower spot being hidden by the wing on the lower photo. Thanks for the correction though =).

Ibn
02-19-2005, 12:06 AM
I did couple Christenings and some conventions and I found stroboframe to be extremely useful to the point where I wouldn't photograph without one.

Recently I purchased LumiQuest Softbox LQ925D and I love it. OmniBounce is not even close to this Softbox when it comes to light diffusion.

http://www.lumiquest.com/images/925-softbox.jpg

Looks interesting and makes sense. I'll have to take a further look at it.