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cerx2oO4
03-17-2005, 4:35 PM
i just wanted to get anyones input on this camera. its the one im looking into buying but i wanna know what you guys think of it first...
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/app/images/d_camera/pro1_586x225.jpg
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=144&modelid=9823&sa=true
How much does it cost where you plan to buy it? I'd think twice about buying any "point & shoot" cameras if they are anywhere near ~$700.
cerx2oO4
03-18-2005, 1:10 PM
i was going to buy it at bestbuy.
Holy smokes...$800 from BestBuy.
BTW, is there a reason that you're interested in buying this camera over some of the others (such as the G6, Fujifilm FinePix S7000 Z in the SLR-like pack, or even the entry class SLR's such as the Canon 300D)? That's also at the price range where the D70 body sells for.
I took a look at the SLR-like class and the G6, S7000, and the Pro1 are quite close in terms of performance. It trumps the other two in pixels, coming in at 8, whereas the Fuji comes in at 6 and the G6 at 7, however that's not a lot of difference. To be able to notice the difference in pixels, you would have to be in double digit range. It does have a larger CCD sensor than the other two, but otherwise, they're all very close. The Fuji, with it's interpolation, max shutter speed, macro focus range, and white balance actually trumps both the Canons. It does have the smallest viewfinder out of the three and uses AA batteries instead of Li-Ions.
If you're not worried about having the ability to record your own movie, then also consider the 300D. The kit is going for the same price at BestBuy. Also, if you don't mind shopping online, then consider other vendors as well. You'll save considerably more than if you were to pick the camera up from a B&M.
agree with ibn. you should really consider and entry-level slr for that much $$.
meriadoc
03-18-2005, 10:44 PM
there's reasons as to why not to buy a digital SLR.
one of the big factors is the ongoing costs. Its not necessarily about how much the person has to spend, its more :
1. Do they have the money to buy additional accessories (lenses, flashes etc). Want macro, gonna have to buy additional filters or a macro lens. Want a wider angle, there's a few hundred dollars. Want something longer than the kit lens? Add more money.
2. Don't have the room for a larger camera system. Maybe they want something small and compact. I knwo there have been alot of times where i've wanted a smaller camera to take along with me.
3. Just not interested in investing money in a SLR outfit.
Sit down and figure out how much money you've spent in the last year just on camera gear. I sat down today and figured i've spent nearly $5000 this past year alone. THIS year (2005), I've already spent $1500. I'm looking to spend another $1100 for a lens, plus flash and a bunch of other stuff. By the end of the year, I no doubt will spend another $5000 - possibly more.
benny
03-18-2005, 10:50 PM
I've used this camera on several occassion. It's definitely a fine compact digital camera with some fancy features, inclusing L lens, IS technology and options for accessories. However, if you intend to take photography more seriously and will expand your scope in the future, the camera will limited your expansion options.
On a separate note, this camera still uses Digic I, not Digic II chipset. Noise handling is probably a lot worst that the Canon Digital Rebel XT at high ISO.
Cheers,
there's reasons as to why not to buy a digital SLR.
one of the big factors is the ongoing costs. Its not necessarily about how much the person has to spend, its more :
1. Do they have the money to buy additional accessories (lenses, flashes etc). Want macro, gonna have to buy additional filters or a macro lens. Want a wider angle, there's a few hundred dollars. Want something longer than the kit lens? Add more money.
2. Don't have the room for a larger camera system. Maybe they want something small and compact. I knwo there have been alot of times where i've wanted a smaller camera to take along with me.
3. Just not interested in investing money in a SLR outfit.
Sit down and figure out how much money you've spent in the last year just on camera gear. I sat down today and figured i've spent nearly $5000 this past year alone. THIS year (2005), I've already spent $1500. I'm looking to spend another $1100 for a lens, plus flash and a bunch of other stuff. By the end of the year, I no doubt will spend another $5000 - possibly more.
All very good points. Hence the reason why I asked the question in the first paragraph... Well aware of the costs involved with picking up the DSLR, hence the thought about taking a look at some of the other SLR-like cams in the same price range. Both the G6 and the Fuji aren't DSLRs, but are in the same category. Not limiting the options of any camera; just presenting other alternatives.
Also, I did take your suggestion and punched up some quick numbers. I'm at around the $4,800 mark right now and I only took up the hobby less than six months ago...
i agree that both p&s and dslr's have their pros and cons and they both have their place. just thought i would mention it. if someone had mentioned it to me, i would have saved ~$600 i put into my p&s that i gave away to my sister. not everyone knows what's out there. i had no idea that there were digital slrs until last year. btw - i'm around $4500.
cerx2oO4
03-19-2005, 4:29 AM
Holy smokes...$800 from BestBuy.
BTW, is there a reason that you're interested in buying this camera over some of the others (such as the G6, Fujifilm FinePix S7000 Z in the SLR-like pack, or even the entry class SLR's such as the Canon 300D)? That's also at the price range where the D70 body sells for.
I took a look at the SLR-like class and the G6, S7000, and the Pro1 are quite close in terms of performance. It trumps the other two in pixels, coming in at 8, whereas the Fuji comes in at 6 and the G6 at 7, however that's not a lot of difference. To be able to notice the difference in pixels, you would have to be in double digit range. It does have a larger CCD sensor than the other two, but otherwise, they're all very close. The Fuji, with it's interpolation, max shutter speed, macro focus range, and white balance actually trumps both the Canons. It does have the smallest viewfinder out of the three and uses AA batteries instead of Li-Ions.
If you're not worried about having the ability to record your own movie, then also consider the 300D. The kit is going for the same price at BestBuy. Also, if you don't mind shopping online, then consider other vendors as well. You'll save considerably more than if you were to pick the camera up from a B&M.
actually no there is no reason .. i just wanted to hear what you guys thought about that camera .. im still actually looking around to see which camera to buy. thanx everyone for their input.
i might actually think of picking up the g6. not sure though, we'll see.
nomaddan
03-19-2005, 5:42 AM
Wouldn't he main advantage of a SLR be the option to upgrade and expand in the future? If you go with the point and shoot then decide you want more at a later date you have to soend another $800-$1200. If you have the SLR it does averything the point and shoot does +, then if you want to do more the $$$ isn't nearly as much.
You guys mentioned how much you have spent but that is the nice thing about the SLR. It gives you the option to expand your photography...if thats what you want to do.
cerx2oO4
03-29-2005, 3:24 PM
how is this price for this G6.. note all this stuff comes with this price
G6 Deluxe Package
Kit Includes: Individual Price:
Powershot G6 ($494.99)
Mini Tripod ($19.99)
Lens cleaning kit ($19.99)
Digital Camera Neck Strap ($7.99)
SP-60 Digital Camera Screen Protectors ($9.99)
Memory Card Wallet ($6.99)
3 Year extended warranty for Digital Cameras ($149.99)
Small Digital camera case ($39.99)
1.0 GB Compact flash memory card ($79.99)
BP-511 Rechargeable battery ($69.99)
Price if purchased separately: $899.9
You are saving: $169.95
Package price: $729.95
paradise
03-29-2005, 5:07 PM
Ed, here is my opinion on this stuff:
Powershot G6 ($494.99) great camera by itself
Mini Tripod ($19.99) NOT necessary at all
Lens cleaning kit ($19.99) NOT necessary at all
Digital Camera Neck Strap ($7.99) NOT necessary at all (should be included w/camera, right?)
SP-60 Digital Camera Screen Protectors ($9.99) NOT necessary at all
Memory Card Wallet ($6.99) NOT necessary at all
3 Year extended warranty for Digital Cameras ($149.99) NOT necessary at all, what a rip
Small Digital camera case ($39.99) NOT necessary at all, for a small camera
1.0 GB Compact flash memory card ($79.99) good
BP-511 Rechargeable battery ($69.99) should come w/one, dont need another one now.
Package price: $729 For that price, you can get a "used" Rebel 300D body and a nice lens, plus a 1gig Compact flash. i.e. all you need.
Have to agree with what Ed said, Ed. =)
Only thing that I see that you would need is the memory card. Also for that price, make sure it's one of the faster ones and not a standard card. The camera should come with a kit of some sort w/battery and straps.
For reference, for that price, you can get a brand NEW Canon 300D with the kit lens from buydig ($674):
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CNDIGRBL1855
paradise
03-29-2005, 6:19 PM
Yep, and spend another $75 for a 1gig memory. $750, almost exactly what you would pay for that G6 "KIT" and a much better deal. Those "Packages" they sell are always not worth it. Trust me.
Never trust a person who says "Trust me". Hehe, but seriously, all those extras are not worth it. Just curious, what are you planning to photograph with your new camera?
cerx2oO4
03-30-2005, 6:33 PM
Never trust a person who says "Trust me". Hehe, but seriously, all those extras are not worth it. Just curious, what are you planning to photograph with your new camera?
well to be honest anything... i wanted to start what i didnt finish in school.. and also i just wanted a nice camera to take pictures of my fish.. as ive tried those small handy ones and didnt work well for me..
thanx for the advice Ed, i know i figure half the stuff they had in there wasnt worth it.. i just put it to see if every one here had the same thoughts.. and you did.. thanx again guys.. :thumbsup:
hate to break it to you, but those small compact cameras and the one's you've listed are very similar apart from size. the first one you listed may be better a little more versatile though. i'm sure there are some manual features that are useful. a digital slr however - is a different story.