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jmwilder
03-23-2005, 10:55 AM
Hi. First post. Thanks for the great resource.

I just got my SB-800 in the mail and set to work taking pictures of fish. I set the SB-800 and D70 up for commander mode per Jay Luto's posted instructions. I then set the SB-800 on top of the tank with its diffuser dome in place. In aperture-priority mode with matrix-metering, I took a few photographs at f/11. The SB-800 fired as anticipated, but the subject was overexposed. This was fixed easily enough by stopping down the lens. But I don't understand why I had this problem in the first place. As I understand TTL, at least with the flash attached to the camera, the D70 calculates exposure based on preflashes and then directs the SB-800 to produce the necessary flash to yield the correct exposure. This frees up aperture to control depth of field and, together with shutter speed, background exposure based on ambient light. Put differently, the subject ought to be exposed correctly irrespective of my choice of aperture (in aperture-priority mode).

Any clarifications on this or suggestions as to how best to use the SB-800 in commander mode would be greatly appreciated.

One caveat: I was taking pictures of a small fish that came nowhere close to filling the frame. I'm thinking the matrix metering might have been trying to set the correct exposure for the dark rock in the background. I didn't have time to experiment much, but spot metering seemed to be more effective. Is matrix or spot metering generally preferred in this context? Thanks.

jmwilder
03-23-2005, 11:06 PM
I had a chance to take some more pictures using the SB-800 in commander mode tonight and am pretty confident my problems were related to the small subject (fry) against the black background. Taking pictures of an adult N. multifasciatus, I had much greater success. Of course, I'd still be interested in advice on how best to use the SB-800 in commander mode.

paradise
03-24-2005, 1:58 AM
So, where are the pics :-) ? Show us some...

hir0
03-24-2005, 2:50 AM
jm, i use a nikon d70 with the sb-800 - for aquatic photos... i set the camera to manual and look at the histogram. sometimes i shoot with the flash head pointed up, bounced off of a white posterboard back into the tank.

jmwilder
03-24-2005, 11:25 AM
As to those pictures, I will post some to the gallery when I manage to capture a few I really like. I have only the kit lens though, which maxes out at 70mm. So I'm having problems getting as close to the multies as I think I need to be to frame a nice shot. We'll see how long I can hold out until I get something with a little longer focal length, a little lower MFD, or some combination of the two.

hir0, I take it that you use matrix metering and don't normally set any flash compensation? (I'm really into flash compensation, as I've been reading all the advice on flash fill in photography forums and Thom Hogan's ebook.)

Ibn
03-24-2005, 1:49 PM
Have two of these units in commander mode, set at 1/2 power (old Tamron macro lens) pointed straight down when I took the pictures of the dwarf crayfish.

Here's a recent picture that my friend took of his discus. Used a Sigma 100-300mm f/4 (with 1.4x TC and I forgot if he shot it wide open or not; he wanted to play around w/the setup) lens from around 20' away from the tank. One SB-800 was positioned to the left side of the tank and the other on the right side. Both were around 3' away from the front of the tank and pointed at a slight angle. Both flash on TTL and hooked onto individual Quantum Turbos.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Onei/Boun/_DSC3077.jpg

Roseline shot with the same setup and during the same session.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Onei/Boun/_DSC3081.jpg